Abazović: It is true that I was offered 21 million euros, it is not true that it was Brčvak

Petr Komnenić's guest is Dritan Abazović, president of the Civic Movement URA

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Abazović and Komnenić, Photo: Dušan Cicmil
Abazović and Komnenić, Photo: Dušan Cicmil
Disclaimer: The translations are mostly done through AI translator and might not be 100% accurate.
Ažurirano: 03.12.2020. 22:15h

The president of the civil movement URA, Dritan Abazović, is a guest of the Načisto show on Television Vijesti.

FLOW OF THE SHOW

21:45 - The government's priorities must be the epidemiological situation, as well as how to stabilize the economic system and start an active fight against organized crime and corruption. If the government is elected, it would be logical for the ministers to be at their workplaces on Monday... My first task will be to call the director of the Police Directorate and the supreme state prosecutor. I have set myself the task and it will depend on them whether we can go to plan A or go to plan B. What I would like to send as a final message, I invite all people... to be partners of this government and together we do good things for Montenegro. This government, whatever you call it, this is the government of honest people. They will be dedicated to the public interest and will not want to steal a single euro. It's a big step forward compared to all the governments we've had so far... I believe in a civil, European and ecological Montenegro. I'm not sure we can be as fast as Luxembourg, but I'm sure we can have an enviable standard of living," said Abazović.

21:40 - Commenting on the expulsion of Serbian Ambassador Vladimir Božović and the fact that everyone agrees that his statements are completely inappropriate, interference in internal affairs, he also said that URA will not "allow anyone to humiliate Montenegro in any way".

"What would be my suggestion, if the ambassador ever asked me if he should go to the meeting where he stated that, I would tell him I would like you not to go there. Of course, that is his personal right. From my point of view, these are offensive things for state... We are ready to turn over a new leaf. Whether Belgrade will accept it or not remains to be seen," said Abazović.

He said that everything seemed like "part of the game" to him.

"I would like us to get into situations like this as little as possible. We have to build good neighborly relations. This also applies to the extradition of Svetozar Marović, and I hope that the President of Serbia will keep his word and send an answer..."

21:33 - "I don't like that there is so much fuss around Budva about the board, and that the same uproar was not raised when Lazar Rađenović was with the ambassador of Serbia. Was it OK then? When is the new majority supposed to come, is it not OK? Me that's annoying.... I as a well-intentioned citizen am interested in 2020, 2024. I want to see where we are going, not where we were. All the dominant policies want to take us back to where we were. Let the historians interpret... Let's move forward and get out from the trench".

21:30 - "All the people who agreed to join the government made a big step forward. They all deserve at least a chance. In my eyes, they also deserve respect. I am grateful that they accepted the job. Ecology is important and I believe that Ratko Mitrović will achieve results. "

Abazović said that he is happy that one of the government's decisions will be "to have a permanent ban on the construction of mini-hydropower plants..."

21:24 - Commenting on Vesna Bratić's candidacy for Minister of Education, Science, Culture and Sports, Abazović said that out of the 12 ministers, he had heard major public remarks about only one.

"I don't share Bratić's views, they are far from me, I have nothing to do with it. What we have said more than once is that maybe they would choose some other people for us, but that we cannot speak in Montenegro where there is nationalism, where structures of the DPS and DF to have 12 cosmopolitans in the new government. I do not agree with the attitudes, the heritage of civic values, I claim to be a cosmopolitan, but we cannot aim for perfection. I want to give Mrs. Bratić and all the others a chance." , Abazovic said.

He added that he was sorry that there were no minority peoples in the government...

photo: Dušan Cicmil

21:17 - "... if we refuse to give the Airport into concession, we will be left without 100 million euros. There are three companies from South Korea, France and Turkey that have submitted papers. The airports of Montenegro generate income, while Montenegro Airlines only incurs expenses. we beat the drum, and we want to protect Montenegro Airlines with all possible forces...".

21:13 - "I can't believe that we've been talking about smuggling for 20 years and that we can't suppress it. How can we talk about smuggling, for which there are doubts that it's a market of 800 million euros a year in transit, a small part of which remains in Montenegro ... It must be admitted that the state has succumbed to organized crime... I think that smuggling is going on very smoothly... You have a situation where a renowned newspaper has been shot at for writing articles... We will do serious things, but we cannot until we see the documentation ..."

21:10 - "In the Police Directorate, the ANB... there are people who do not mean any harm to Dritan Abazović. I spoke with the director of the ANB and they acted professionally. The Police Directorate never gave me a paper. Everything I asked the Department for it's safe to give me paper..."

Abazović said that regarding the threats sent to him by a criminal clan, he was contacted by a close relative of the Keljmendi family.

"He said that they are disgusted by the fact that appeared in the media and that they have no motive... This leads to another conclusion. It is more logical that someone from here in Montenegro wants to do something, and that the deception of the tracks should happen through the fact that it will be marketed to someone from the region who does not have access to Montenegro. It makes more sense to me. Everything that happened to me before and after the election completely petrified me. I have no fear. There is no one behind me and I am obliged to answer for my actions only to citizens in the main board of GP URA...".

21:05 - Abazović confirmed that it is true that he was offered 21 million euros.

"I think all the best about Mr. Brčvak, I think he is a great benefactor and the things he has done for Montenegro deserve respect. When it comes to Davidović's claims, the figure he mentioned is not a lie. It would be extremely frivolous to say who offered what. Money he didn't offer me Brčvak".

21:00 - As Abazović said, Jovana Marović is the best candidate for Montenegro's negotiator with the EU.

"A great worker who could help us a lot".

20: 57 - I don't know who the ministers are close to Daka Davidović. I think that Krivokapić is right when he says that the ministers are not in any party nor will they be... We cannot do the law on lustration for anyone individually. I don't know that he was a minister in Montenegro (Davidović)... The relationship between Krivokapić and me was extremely good, collegial and fair until one situation that happened in front of the press on Friday where I am referring to Goran Đurović. Mr. Đurović is an exceptional man and a candidate for the minister of any government... His results and help to people speak for him... Regarding that incident, I and the representative did not meet. I'm not the one who can appoint the ministers, if I were the one I might appoint a different composition... I don't want to question his decisions. I have to confirm what Mr. Đurović said is true. I was personally surprised that the ministers were not replaced, I know Mrs. Injac better than Krivokapoić. The problem is that it should not be done that way," said Abazović

20:50 - He expects that the new body that will be formed in order to prevent the spread of the coronavirus will be inclusive and that "it will have people from the profession and not be a party cell as it has been so far".

20:47 - Not everything could fit in the exposition. Surely the issue of war crimes has not been archived. I can't believe that the minority parties that were in the coalition with the DPS respect Krivokapić," said Abazović.

20:43 - "I don't think that all people in the opposition are flowers. I think that there are no clusters of privileged people. I think that we should follow the maxim that the representative mentioned - law and justice apply to everyone. There are no privileged people, whether someone is in power. There are some cases that they have been sitting in drawers for too long," Abazović said.

He added that citizens deserve to know what happened in the "Can", "Telekom", "Snimak" affair...

"I have no new information about the events in Pljevlja after the elections. Based on my feelings, I claim that this is programmed by the DPS..."

20:42 - The law on the origin of property is a good basis for starting the fight against organized crime, Abazović believes.

"The tax administration should get a special department that should supervise people's assets that are worth more than 500.000 euros... A local businessman donated to a school, which is very nice, and he is an unemployed person. I am talking about the Bemax case. There is no it is nowhere that he is the owner of shares, some companies... If they discovered a microchip and got rich with their discoveries, why not congratulate them, if they achieved it in a way that is OK..."

20:38 - The law on the origin of property is happy and can go quickly into the procedure. The law on lustration is not ready... I think that several models we used can be productive and we should get those two systemic laws, said Abazović.

He added that "we do not have a common idea of ​​what the Law on Lustration should look like..."

"The Law on Lustration clearly states for which acts a person can be lustrated and which officials are covered by the law - the president of the state, the prime minister, ministers and other persons... There is a model. And the third part of the law is who conducts the lustration - in some countries it is Ombudsman..."

photo: Dušan Cicmil

20.35 - "VDT and the Police Directorate are two institutions that are trapped in the clutches of organized crime and corruption. If we wait for Katnić to be removed, we will lose a few months. The only option he can play is to resign. As a government, we have to talk to him ...", said the leader of GP URA.

He added that "we can solve" whatever falls within the jurisdiction of the government.

"We expect the parliament to resolve what is the competence of the parliament. The parliament can change the law, elect another VDT, change the Prosecutor's Council...".

20:33 - We can dismiss some people appointed by the government - director of the Police Administration and ANB. The people we cannot remove are the people at the top of the prosecution. If we have obstructions in the state prosecutor's office, our hands will be tied... explained Abazović.

20:30 - If I am the deputy prime minister, I will be in charge of the security sector and foreign policy. I will be someone who will be the intelligence coordinator by law...

"I try to say serious things. The fact that there are people sitting in the parliament who would make a circus out of Montenegro, I don't want that as the vice-president of Valda or a member of parliament. I don't want to humiliate my country. I want to sit down with the top of the state prosecution and the police administration and I identify where the problems are, which is why the biggest cases are not solved. If I identify problems, I will ask for them to be solved, if someone obstructs the work, including colleagues from the government, I will go public and identify each person because I consider it my duty," said Abazović.

20:25 - He explained that he has not given any interview for the German media in the last 45 days, and that some of his statements are not authentic or well translated.

"The priority is to form a government. I can say what Đukanović is responsible for... What was a priority 45 days ago was to form a government... The law on the origin of property and lustration can change the situation in Montenegro regarding corruption and organized crime. We have to take the position that no one will be privileged. We start from the very top...".

20:20 - "We will do our best to do the right things because the country needs to get a government. We expect that our possible results will influence the support for the government to increase. In depth, all parties need to get their seats".

Abazović added that without the help of the parties "we cannot have a strong government".

20:18 - "When they asked for the support of the church, they did not protest. Do you think they would have ever achieved this result if they did not have the open support of the church. If they swore at the church so much, why are they distancing themselves from a man who at one point received the support of the church".

20:14 - Personally, I would not eliminate people from the lists of deputies because Montenegro does not have too many personnel. Krivokapić was given a mandate and we should behave seriously, Abazović stated.

20:12 - I think this is a good concept for Montenegro. This government has great support among the citizens of Montenegro. The tasks before us are very complex... At this moment, we have two acute issues - the epidemiological situation and the stabilization of public finances...

20:09 - You have not heard a single word against this government from international addresses... I think it is in the interest of Montenegro, Abazović reminded.

20:06 - I think that the electoral legitimacy is indisputable. We are a different political entity, we who achieved victory, but we brought down the Berlin Wall and to win in undemocratic conditions... ".

"The transition cannot go through roses and songs. From the beginning, I think that, as far as our coalition is concerned, I do not find myself in the attacks of anyone. We offered that the prime minister be from the option that received the largest number of votes. Does he have a problem with to those who stood behind him...", stated the leader of GP URA.

20:03 - I think these are the birth pangs of democracy, said Abazović.

"Citizens of Montenegro have greater political awareness than we thought...".

He also said that he has "nothing against Đukanović feeling relaxed".

"He has never had this kind of defeat, the situation in their party is compiled, but I am sure that if we get the government tomorrow, the relaxation that is present now will not be easy".

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