Marić assessed that the Assembly did nothing of what was in its competence to "deconstruct the levers of the former government."
"No agency has been moved from its place. The Agency for the Prevention of Corruption has not been moved from its place," he said.
He believes that the only solution is a technical government and that "no exclusivity will bring a solution", but will only prolong the current situation.
Šoć said that the ministers attending the protests, who are not members of any party, forgot that they are state officials, "and not political propagandists".
In response to Popović's statement that he "does not respect the future party", Šoć said that "then it has no legitimacy".
"Everyone refers to the will expressed on August 30. If they sincerely believe in it, then their obligation is to turn off their Twitter accounts, have someone take their phones, put a finger on their forehead and sit down, to come to an agreement. For the government to change , expand, leave room for new people, to make the Government more operational, to expand its legitimacy by including representatives of Albanians and Bosniaks, and approach declaratively fulfilling the promise of August 30, for which they were elected."
He said that a dialogue is necessary to reach clear and indisputable institutions. "We must have a government that will ensure that anarchy does not occur".
Gazivoda said that it is necessary to identify bad things and that this has not happened to many.
"The principle of the rule of law is an ideal that we have not even come close to," he said, citing as an example that "everyone violated" the measures adopted in the fight against the coronavirus.
Popović appealed to all subjects to put party and other interests under control because the crisis is "deep and far-reaching".
The civil movement URA called to think once more about the well-intentioned criticism that the government without the support of a large part of the current parliamentary majority has no legitimacy and violates the Constitution.
Popović agreed with Šoć's position that it would be best to reach an agreement within the parliamentary majority on the formation of a new government, but also assessed that this is unlikely.
If "21 out of 41 - the majority of the majority" is not secured, then extraordinary elections must be held, "with a technical or concentration government", he said.
Popović believes that everyone should be represented in the technical government, with the aim of preparing new elections.
"The number 49, dominated by the number 30 of the DPS, is not a magic number, it is a worthless number. The main thing is to democratize Montenegro, to fight against the mafia, its political wing - the DPS."
Entering a minority government with the exclusive support of DPS, and not the majority of the current parliamentary majority, is not only "against August 30", but also against the Constitution, said Popović.
Gazivoda said that it is necessary to get to the point where every deputy votes according to his own conscience, which is "science fiction" in Montenegro.
"We need that event when a man from a certain party will say - I will not vote for this because it is not right".
When talking about the "betrayal of the citizens' will", Šoć said that the voter's will was defined by elections in the form of mandates
"No party got an absolute majority. I recognize that the majority of people followed those parties that promised changes, and in this sense, any collaboration with DPS represents a betrayal of the general will directed towards changes."
"If I were to use the word 'betrayal', I would say this - You who promised Montenegro a European path, a democratic transformation, you betrayed the promises I voted for. You are now the ones politically ruining the institutions".
Šoć assessed that the Government cannot exist in the current structure and with the current personnel composition, but also that a minority government is a bad idea.
"First of all, it will bring DPS back to the political scene, at least in the minds of the citizens, and secondly, no project of that government that DPS does not like will have its passage, in other words, their hands are tied."
Another option, he said, would be for the current parliamentary majority to agree on the formation of a government within the same majority, including political representatives of national minorities.
Šoć said that there is no responsibility for the spoken word, that is, in any other country, an official who makes serious accusations and "publicly arrests" people would end up in court.
"Tweeting has become a way of running institutions, we have a Twitter state, without any responsibility," he added.
Marić said that the abuse of state resources by the new government delegitimized persistent criticism of the abuse of resources by their predecessors.
"We have abuse of institutions in favor of strengthening certain political projects and we all see that," he said, clarifying that he meant mass employment in municipalities and departments.
Marić expressed his fear that the positive economic effects, due to the current political situation, could be turned into a "modified way of buying votes".
The fame that is DPS has its own justification, said Marić, but he also said that every subject of the parliamentary majority "voted something with DPS".
The minority government is one of the models, he added, but also said that he would call the current and eventual minority government technical.
If it does not have the stability of the parliamentary majority that supports it, it cannot create a platform for institutional reforms.
Marić said that in the past period there was no "ventilation" of the prosecution organization. "She is the biggest institutional victim of a system that has been going on for decades, even before DPS".
Popović said that the Council for the fight against high corruption took only "two, three unfinished steps towards the head of the Montenegrin mafia".
"And that caused tremors. The one before Cetinje in September, not even a month ago - 1.400 kilograms of cocaine... anyone who doesn't see the connection between those two facts, doesn't know what is happening in Montenegro."
Popović assessed that the new government "has shown at least 70 percent, maybe up to 90 percent" that it is the same as the previous one.
"It is a devastating diagnosis, which should sober everyone up, in the sense that the disease called corruption, oligarchy, partitocracy, clientelism in breadth and depth - has taken the whole society".
Popović said that the hope that the parliamentary majority would reach a minimum agreement to extend the mandate of the current government and authorities, and that better conditions would be created for the Council for the fight against corruption at a high level to do its job, was the only reason he did not resign earlier membership in that body.
"The moment when the subjects of the new government started to use that Council for mutual calculations, and I think that this is a bad conflict and that there are no innocents in that conflict, and especially since this option of an exclusive minority government with the DPS, it is no longer even the URA for me, I'm sorry that it's like that, we'll see what the future will bring... at that moment I was alone that there was no hope. When the mud started and towards the Council, I saw that there was nothing to wait for the parliamentary outcome".
He assessed that the Council achieved limited results, because there was no understanding and that the party's interest came before the public interest.
Gazivoda, commenting on the work of the Special State Prosecutor's Office, said that there is a long way to go to what should be the expected result.
"We see from all international reports that there is a great political influence on the prosecution," he reminded.
He believes that the evaluation of the work of prosecutors by the previous convocation of the Prosecutorial Council was carried out in a bad way and that the approach should be changed.
"I believe that there is a significant number of prosecutors who do a good job, but are demotivated because they have the same rating as a colleague who they see is not doing well and they see that he does not bear any responsibility."
Gazivoda said that the legal deadline for appointing a new member of the Prosecutor's Council, who should replace Marić, is 15 days, and that he should be appointed by Krivokapić as coordinator of the Ministry of Justice, Human and Minority Rights.
"I don't think it would be good, since we have just completed the TS, to continue with a truncated composition. Already next Saturday, we have the continuation of the first session, which has the major task of appointing the acting Supreme Prosecutor".
It is obvious, as he said, that Montenegrin society needs much more dialogue.
"We still have pending issues to be resolved by a two-thirds and three-fifths majority - the Constitutional Court, the Judicial Council, the election of the VDT..."
He said that the position of the VDT has been in an acting position for an unacceptably long time.
Šoć said that the government was "under barrage fire" from the start by the majority that elected it, which sends a negative message to the citizens.
"They sent a message - we formed a government on the platform we promised, and now we are going to destroy it, by blackmailing it, threatening it from time to time..."
He reminded that the "fierceest" defender of the Government was Deputy Prime Minister Dritan Abazović."
He assessed that the proposal for a minority government was a risky move, especially in the way it was presented. "Political culture came to the fore and then we have 'betrayals'. Now those who brutally overthrew the government, I mean the DF, have withdrawn, kept quiet".
"What a 'coup', it's like I'm listening to Katnić," he added.
He pointed out that the initiatives for shortening the mandate of the Parliament, the dismissal of the Deputy Prime Minister and the President of the Assembly are legitimate.
"When I hear the word 'treason' I start to worry, because it does not belong to democracy", said Šoć, to which Marić assessed that this is the way in which citizens are "scared", and thus they are told that they should follow "the party's leaders and orders".
Šoć believes that there is no dilemma in going to extraordinary elections.
Using the terms "coup" and "treason" speaks of political immaturity, Šoć said.
"I would say that it is a political lack of culture, and to a certain extent, when I listen to some, it is also a lack of elementary civic education".
He explained that the Constitution leaves the possibility of a vote of no confidence in the government and that this issue was not raised for the first time.
"This is not the first government that will lose its legitimacy, in 2002 LSCG canceled the confidence in the government of Filip Vujanović, it was delegitimized and elections were held. There is no place to talk about any kind of coup".
Marić assessed that there was not a sufficient level of trust to continue cooperation, but said that he did not regret his decision to be part of the Government.
Popović assessed that even the nineties of the last century were not "such a critical moment".
"I think there is a worse moment, until 99 the mafia was still in its infancy and did not have the effective social power it has today. It is behind the scenes that produces this chaos and only chaos suits it. That is the reason why today it may be more dangerous".
He assessed that there have been positive results in the past 17 months, primarily in the field of economy and security.
Šoć said that he does not see a rational explanation for the current events and that the question arises as to how everything that is happening differs from "what we left on August 30".
Marić said that he was informed about the dismissal from the position of State Secretary on January 24, while he was at the session of the Prosecutor's Council.
"Then I was invited to the Prime Minister's office, I thanked him for his cooperation, he thanked me and that's it," said Marić, saying that during the show he would clarify his position on the Government's decision.
Popović said that, on the occasion of his recent resignation from the Council for the fight against corruption at a high level, he said that he did not want to participate in the conflict at the top of the government.
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The guests in tonight's show "Nachisto" with Peter Komnenić are: Dragan Šoć - lawyer, Milan Popović - university professor, Siniša Gazivoda - lawyer and member of the Prosecutor's Council, Boris Marić - yesterday's state secretary in the Ministry of Justice, Human and Minority Rights.
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